Thursday, May 10, 2012

WE DISCUSS


Akhil:
My dearest appa,
Jay has forwarded his email written to you. Myself & Govind was reading yours as well as his reply to you.
Govind had the opinion for example the lines which i have quoted in RED had alerted Jay's thinking towards Anarchism. He said to forward me the article of John Mathew which i have forwarded you and Govind in earlier email about the subject 'I Don't Care'. According to Govind i have marked some lines in red colour which u can go thru directs the opinion that the generation of now doesn't understand etc..I have forwarded to Jay and he wrote to me in SPANISH this morning which I have cliked for TRANSLATION and u can view jay's e-mail below the article.
You can go thru the opinion of Jay as well. Now Jay wants a reply from his Nana. I have not mentioned the opinion of Govind to Jay. I am just mentioning to you only my dear appa.
Ravi called me this morning after checking in from the Madrid Airport. Hope his flight took off in time. After reaching Washington he may send message if he gets time there. Otherwise after reaching the hotel in Los  Angeles he will text me. He has to collect his baggage from washington but they have issued the boarding pass from washington to Los Angeles. Hope his journey will be pleasant. Will be waiting to hear from you soon daddy. Love you so much. Take care.
Your loving daughter,
From Jay:
I wanted to ask you about all these, because I am very interested in Anarchism, as I told you in previous mail. The difference about Communism, is that there is no centralization, no dictatorship, and focuses on development of the individual and forming groups, societies and federations based on the person's will. It predicates freedom, in the sense that there should be no ruler, nor leader, and you don't rule over others. All these matches quite a lot with my personality and way of life.
I don't understand these MTV guys, I really can't. There seems to be some perverse force at play making my understanding of this channel into the equivalent to my trying to understand the moods of my son, who, by the way, is a big fan of the channel. He is glued to "Splitsvilla", "Roadies", and that Akshay Kumar something where he talks in his high baritone-gone-bad voice about adventure and how he loves it.
Yeah, I watch these channels as my son sits glued to them. I try to understand his understanding of what is happening in these channels. Wait, this is getting a bit confusing, so I will simplify, simplify. I am trying to understand how the younger generation is being misled by the notion of what young people should be doing in the modern world. Hope you get the drift! The dominant theme here is to "not care about anything," or, as "Splitsvilla" puts it "Be Raw."
Being Raw as I understand it means: saying what comes to mind (without thinking), doing what you feel like, and disrespecting everybody. Be Raw also mean, by a corollary, that I don't care. There's great danger in bringing up a generation in this belief. People do not understand this. A generation weaned on "Be Raw" or "I don't care" should also be prepared for rawness from others, and also be prepared for "don't care" when some social atrocity has been committed on them. They should know that there are wars being fought, genocides being planned in this world. These young people are still in the care of their loving parents. However, are they prepared to face the world alone, on their terms, as their parents did around thirty years ago? 
We as parents did whatever we could to cocoon them from the world and its ills. We worked hard to provide them a home, clothes, bikes, education (which is very expensive these days). We genuflected before tyrannical bosses, ate humble pie in office meetings, took shit from our clients, and swallowed our pride before aggressive colleagues to hold on dearly to our jobs. If we were raw and "I don't care" they would have ended up in a broken family, all alone, living in some slum, without a job to give them the security they are flaunting. 
Okay, I will stop ranting now.
But why I don't understand these MTV guys is because on the other hand there is this guy Raghu exhorting everyone to be caring, polite and a good citizen of the world. And he bloody imposes himself of the poor trembling darlings. A girl said she wanted to be in Roadies because that would make her famous and give her the right break. Girl, grow up! This thought of instant stardom through the teevee is figment of the fertility of your imagination. And there's this show where the spoilt brats of rich industrialists are summarily insulted and traumatized by another presenter, or Veejay, or whatever.
Now "I don't care" has become something of an anthem for the youth. There are young gangs everywhere sporting their "I don't care" on their sleeves, in a manner of speaking. I saw a girl crossing the traffic, ears plugged by a hearing device, talking to someone, unmindful that the cars are honking impatiently for her to cross. "I don't care," she seems to be saying. And there's this guy, his hair like spikes on his head, his ears, nose and eyebrows pierced, wearing skin-hugging clothes, and a pointed pair of shoes. He also seems to say, 'I don't care."
Do you care? Do you? I don't understand this generation.  
THIS IS JAY'S REPLY FOR THE ARTICLE:
Hello ma,
I'll write my opinion, that does not mean what I say is what is right. It's just what I think:
The opinion of your friend seems to me ridiculous, really bad. Why? Because this debate has always existed. Young people always have other fashions, trends, etc.. that in our generation were different, and our parents and grandparents said the same of us.
The MTV show he speaks, who has a real effect? Who are these programs? The young, not old, or those who work or who have to work to survive. This depends very much on education with those children and youth. This protection that he speaks of the parents, also influences to take that attitude, because being so protected, and have as many facilities are not capable of perceiving the real world. And so when they finish their career or whatever, and have to deal with reality, out other problems that previous generations had not faced because they worked from small, or whatever.
As much as the parents have sacrificed everything they do, not going to save their children from all life's problems, that is. And the attitude of "I Do not Care", because when these children grow up and have to seek life, sooner or later have to face reality and change, or those who are brave enough, crazy, or free ( whatever you call it) will continue with that attitude until the end of his days.
That's it ma, do not understand what has to do with my mail this article to nana. Come, see you later!
Dears Akhil & Jay,
Yes, I did see the article by Mathew as forwarded by you earlier. I did a fast reading. I found it distressing on the part of an intelligent parent like Mathew who cannot be considered as an orthodox. However, it seems common among all parents towards their children though they are mature to think by themselves. I did not think at that moment to put my thoughts in words. Think of Binu here. Many here did think about getting her married but she did not take anything serious. Similar is your thinking of Ravikuty. Let us not think for our children; let them do it independently. Keep conversing so that the children confide in their parents. Some guidance from experience might help but. Yes, but.
I am of the firm view that no generation carries all the baggage of their earlier generation. They do change while some might go back. You could find examples from our own families. I don’ want to illustrate them here. A good portion I covered in my autobiography. I myself have changed in the process. All these make me think again on subjects to my heart. Mathew’s children are not a don’t care lot. They do enjoy MTV just like me some years back. Now I don’t go to that. When time comes they will take care of not only Mathew but others as well. There was a time when I did think that I will not be able to care even for my small family. It all passed. Now Kala and Binu do take care of me beside Amma. They may not go out, organize rallies and demonstrations for some seemed public cause but they will be human to each other in or out of the family. We don’t want rabble rousers carried by ego centric reasons just the team Anna set of crowd.
On 9.5.2012 the Mumbai papers carried a news from the division bench of Bombay HC. The court was hearing a few appeals from family court litigants. One of them a man married and having children but living separately at Port Blair in Andaman Islands in Bay of Bengal. He is employed n shipping. He married the woman in 2001 an arranged marriage. Wife was born and bred in Mumbai. Upto 2005 the man was going out on ships and was home after long intervals. But when he was posted at Port Blair he wanted his wife to go along which she refused. The judges hearing the case were Justice Mujumdar and Justice Mohta. Mujumdar made an observation saying that our tradition is that of Sita of Valmiki, who followed Rama to the forest. This shows that people even two generations old are not aware of or not bothered to know the present day realities. If my memory is correct poets and writers of that and earlier generations were much critical of the treatment meted to Sita by Rama of Valmiki. The remarks made by the Justice are unwarranted and ill thought out. I am going out of the way to recall that Laxmana also followed Rama his elder brother. Are we to follow this tradition today? Secondly, Laxmana has a wife and she did not follow her husband. He took leave of his mother that is prominent in Valmiki. But there was nothing mentioned there about taking leave of his wife. Further on at the end of battle in Lanka; Sita was released and brought before Rama. He did not accept her purity and wanted her to take a fire test that was arranged. When Sita entered fire the fire god became cool and presented her to Rama as a purest wife. The story does not end here. A few months after coronation, Sita was pregnant. She desired to visit the abodes of sages in the forest. Meanwhile Rama heard some nasty saying by certain people against Sita and directed Laxmana to leave her near some rishies abode in the forest. Sita did not know this. When he was leaving he told Sita on the instruction of Rama that she is exiled from the kingdom. Years passed. Sita delivered twins. They were educated by Valmiki including on the use of weapons the boys being Kshatriya. Rama was conducting a great horse sacrifice. They boys caught the horse foraging in the sage’s abode. Laxmana failed to get the horse released. It all ended in Valmiki bringing Sita and the boys to the palace. Rama did not accept Sita. He wanted another fire test to prove the purity of Sita. In short a huge fire was lit for Sita to enter. She did enter while crying for mother to rescue her. (All women even though very mature cry for mother even if her mother is not alive and Sita did the same.) The story ends with the goddess earth coming out of the earth and taking Sita in her lap disappeared. No one could say that the judge did remember all these when commenting about our tradition. He is too casual with traditions.        
The ideal wife Sita never had a happy married life as proved by the Valmiki’s text. Imagine on her life. Possible she was happy with her parents but got married by about the age of 14/15 and went to her marital home. Only a few months there then she accompanied her spouse to forest. Along with her husband and brother in-law she also wandered from Ayodhya to south to the banks of Godavari in Nasik Panchavadi.  They might have been there for a few years before she was abducted and confined in Lanka. In 14 years of dwelling in the forest Sita lived a life of denial. When she was back in the palace of Ayodhya; she was a mature lady nearing 30. Then a couple or three months later she was exiled into the forest while pregnant. She lived under the consoling grace of Valmiki and for the sake of her two sons. When the boys were out of teens might be 14/15 years of age; she was presented in the court by Valmiki. Sita may be near 45 years now. She was asked to undergo fire test for the second time but she vanished in to mother earth. Can we say it was suicide? Not exactly from the epic!! What kind of “Ramrajya” that made the queen suffers all her life and loses life?  
NOW LET ME COME TO                                      THE TOPIC OF ANARCISM.
I found some articles on this theme years back when I was following Marxism to understand it. It was only a side theme. Then I started reading about atheism in India there were ideas of freewill and all. They were propagating for cooperation, federations etc. sans all authorities. It was like communism without communists. The first requirement is that of likeminded people in a large majority to be elected on a promise of changing everything upside down. Even if this is achieved on some day what will they do with the administration, the industry and other infra structure? Let us assume that all wealth will be taken over by the new authority in order to distribute them equally among all people. How to distribute a coal mine, oil refinery or all those basic and infrastructural bodies? Very difficult to imagine!! Among the population there are talented and less talented as well as lazy people though may be a minority. Should they get equal share? Let us be clear that money is not wealth at all. Wealth consists of material objects, products of labour. Talented and skilled will work hard to create new and more wealth which they will not share with others who don’t do work. It is natural and true for millennia. The oldest existing work of the ancients in India is the Rigveda. It describes conflict between same groups of people at many places. They were not sorted peacefully but through annihilating one or other group. Mamma could spot from notes made by me on reading Rigveda that is with her. It is in Malayalam. Now I am looking in the net on the subject and found a lot, much confusing than resolving. There was an autobiography of a famous atheist “Gora” Gopalraju Ramachandra Rao. I will forward it.          
Dearest Nana,
I am very happy that you wrote such a huge and rich content, in reply to our mails. 
I totally agree with you with the example of the Indian judges. It is pathetic and a shame, that such a country as India, which delivers excellent and well rounded scientists, engineers, lawyers, doctors, etc., is one of the top countries in many aspects (military, nuclear arsenal, etc.), has at the same time such "bondages" as social and religious thoughts, the casts system, such a big gap between rich and poor, inequality for women, corruption, and a very large etc. 
Regarding Anarchism, I believe that is not the solution for all issues in the world. That is why, I am very curious, and wants to learn more about it. Even between them, they have lots of difference of opinions. Also, some of them believe that Communism is a mandatory step, as a transition to Anarchism. The good thing about all these ideologies is that they make you think, and form your own opinion. They encourage you to learn, to read, not only the media, but many from many other sources, and contrast what you learn.
I will surely read the article of the Anarchist you have sent, and give you a reply accordingly.
Yours,
Jay

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